Beijing unanimously passes sweeping national security law for Hong Kong
#91
Yeah, Chinese internet censorship under Xi has gotten really annoying.

30-6-2020 8:43 PM
DCS17 said:
Poetic justice for china who ban google, facebook, whatapps etc

So now India cannot ban China apps? why concern? Is the world payback time ya know?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/t...48586.html
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#92
30-6-2020 8:08 PM
CJ. said:
If you’re saying that the House of Saud (a family of perverted sadists) does not enjoy a wide range of special privileges from the U.S. government, you’re the one who’s making a ridiculous statement.

Only to the royal family and not to the whole country.
Are they the same for comparison?

Anyway, the latest news is US has removed the special privilege from HK and so making almost quite close to PRC. We'll see by tomorrow. Rolling on the flor laughing

Let the music play.
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#93
That’s even worse. That means the U.S. props up brutal despotic regimes like the Saudis, when it suits American currency / hegemonic interests.

The U.S. propped up the brutal Shah of Iran as well, before he was overthrown by the Islamic Revolution. As flawed as the Iranian government is, it’s actually more democratic than the Saudi government. Iranians vote for their president, even though the Ayatollah is unelected. Ever since Iran got rid of the Shah, who tortured Iranian citizens, the U.S. government has been trying to ruin Iran.

Why do Chinese people in Hong Kong, as well as ethnic Chinese who support Hong Kong independence, think they’re anything but useful pawns for U.S. hegemonic interests? You guys think you’re so special that Americans actually care about you? Let’s be real here. Of course you’re just tools for them.

Now, I don’t support Mainland China trying to overthrow U.S. hegemony. The U.S. did save China in WWII, did insist on giving China a permanent seat on the UN Security Council, over the objections of the other 3 permanent members, and did re-open trade with China. China ought to be grateful for that. On the other hand, those U.S. actions weren’t charity. The U.S. was inevitably aligned against the Axis Powers during WWII, and post-war sought to use China as a counterweight to the Soviet Union.

There’s a balanced view for Chinese people to take regarding these issues, but most Chinese people fail to find that balance. Most Chinese only know the extremes of blind ethnochauvinism, or blind support for Western propaganda and hypocrisy. There’s a happy medium to be found, and neither extreme is correct.

30-6-2020 9:07 PM
SDEBOX said:
Only to the royal family and not to the whole country.
Are they the same for comparison?

Anyway, the latest news is US has removed the special privilege from HK and so making almost quite close to PRC. We'll see by tomorrow. Rolling on the flor laughing

Let the music play.
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#94
HK'S NATIONAL SECURITY LAW: THE MAIN POINTS

The details of Beijing's National Security Law for Hong Kong were revealed about 11 pm on June 30 -- shortly before the legislation took effect the next day. July 1 is HKSAR Day, marking the 23rd anniversary of the territory's reunification with China.

An English version of the NSL remains to be released. Salient points are:

* All four offenses covered -- secession, subversion, terrorism and collusion with external forces -- are punishable with life imprisonment.

* Retroactivity was not mentioned. But those henceforth charged under the NSL could have their relevant actions of the past two years used against them in court.

* HKSAR authorities would normally handle the relevant cases, from arrest through trial. Toward this end, the HK government will set up a special national security unit in the police force, as well as a National Security Committe (NSC) headed by the Chief Executive to oversee the work.

* Beijing would create a National Security Commission in the SAR, as well as name an Adviser to the HK NSC. Significantly, the Commission's duties are to "supervise, direct, coordinate and assist" the SAR government in the defense of national security.

* Beijing would directly handle HK national security cases -- including trials in mainland courts -- under three circumstances: “complicated situations” of interference by foreign and external forces; cases in which the Hong Kong government could not effectively enforce the legislation; and those when national security would be under “serious and realistic threats.”

Much of the above is without precedent in Hong Kong. So some of the finer details will likely become clear only when specific cases occur.
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#95
Last evening the Taiwanese reported that the young man who protest the government, Wong something, has declared that he along with a few of the leaders has quit from all political parties in light of this new law being passed.

If indeed these leaders are thinking for the goods of Hong Kongers, why their convictions are short lived? With their swift declarations in denouncing any future political activities, isn’t this goes to show that they were merely creating chaos and to capitalise with the chaotic situations?

Possibly shows that they backups or fundings from the westerners are no longer made available to them.
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#96
30-6-2020 3:20 PM
century said:
黄之锋罗冠聪周庭宣布退出众志「以个人身份继续抗争」



多间传媒报道,全国人大常委会全票通过港版国安法,黄之锋、周庭、罗冠聪和敖卓轩宣布今早退出众志,黄之锋同时辞任香港众志秘书长。黄之锋指,严峻命运当前,个人祸福难料,周庭则指,无法再参与国际连结工作,就此与伙伴战友别过。罗冠聪则指,会以个人名义继续参与反抗运动。今次退出的四人,全也是众志「打国际线」的中坚。



not to affect others....「以个人身份继续抗争」....will continue to fight for HK & HK people....
没在怕的....unlike all commie hanjian dogs here....
about live & death....for their believe....value of their life in history book...... Rolling on the flor laughing thumbs up




香港民主派不畏港版国安法 计划继续举行7.1游行




香港民主派人士计划无视警方的禁令,以个人身份发起7.1游行。综合香港媒体消息,立法会议员胡志伟、香港“民间人权阵线”(民阵)副召集人陈皓桓等民主派人士,星期二(6月30日)中午召开记者会,宣布将以个人身份发起7.1游行。期间,他们举着“反对国安法,七一齐上街”的标语,希望港人一起上街反对港版国安法这部恶法。




不畏....this is HK people...is about live & death to an evil empire....
HK people has to help themselves, then the world can help them....
together, fight for the world, freedom & humanity...... thumbs up
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#97
30-6-2020 9:19 PM
CJ. said:
That’s even worse. That means the U.S. props up brutal despotic regimes like the Saudis, when it suits American currency / hegemonic interests.

The U.S. propped up the brutal Shah of Iran as well, before he was overthrown by the Islamic Revolution. As flawed as the Iranian government is, it’s actually more democratic than the Saudi government. Iranians vote for their president, even though the Ayatollah is unelected. Ever since Iran got rid of the Shah, who tortured Iranian citizens, the U.S. government has been trying to ruin Iran.

Why do Chinese people in Hong Kong, as well as ethnic Chinese who support Hong Kong independence, think they’re anything but useful pawns for U.S. hegemonic interests? You guys think you’re so special that Americans actually care about you? Let’s be real here. Of course you’re just tools for them.

Now, I don’t support Mainland China trying to overthrow U.S. hegemony. The U.S. did save China in WWII, did insist on giving China a permanent seat on the UN Security Council, over the objections of the other 3 permanent members, and did re-open trade with China. China ought to be grateful for that. On the other hand, those U.S. actions weren’t charity. The U.S. was inevitably aligned against the Axis Powers during WWII, and post-war sought to use China as a counterweight to the Soviet Union.

There’s a balanced view for Chinese people to take regarding these issues, but most Chinese people fail to find that balance. Most Chinese only know the extremes of blind ethnochauvinism, or blind support for Western propaganda and hypocrisy. There’s a happy medium to be found, and neither extreme is correct.

I have repeatedly mentioned that HK is not Saudi and they aren't be compare.
If you wish to have a talk about Saudi then create another thread.
Don't mix the two together.
There are political reasons for US on Saudi regarding the killing.

If you understand what is One Country Two System came about and on what bases it was signed.
Know that only part of HK was suppose to be return to PRC and not the whole and why did UK return them has also had to do with the treaty. Why do West continue to have business in HK is also due to the One Country Two SYstem, do not be fool by PRC lie.

Let me give you an example.
Your grandfather setup company A and Company B has a piece land.
Company B has loan Company A that land and do not need to return.
From that time Company A started to setup Company C for business and carefully build it up.
In 1997, part of the land needed to return back to Company B. Company A decided to return the whole land but ONLY on the agreement that Company C must run as it has always been and Company B cannot interfere with the decision or put in place company B policies in Company C for 50 years. They agreed and had a lawyer to made it legal and company A has the right to review Company C if they are continue to be running the way as it was.

22 years later, Company B grandson couldn't accept the way Company C is running and decide to put in Company B policies in place of Company C policies and able to supersede any contradicting Company C policy.

When you as Company A owner question Company B their rights to do that and has breach the legal terms. This is what Company B told you.

ON THE TIME THAT THE LAND AND COMPANY C HAD RETURNED TO COMPANY B, THE LEGAL DOCUMENT HAD BEEN MADE A HISTORICAL DOCUMENT.

This is the PRC you people are talking and bragging about.
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#98
The Hong Kong National Security Law (HKNSL)_ is here

https://www.gld.gov.hk/egazette/pdf/2020...444136.pdf

According to article 38 of this law, the HKNSL also applies to people living outside Hong Kong Administration
Region (HKAR) and not the permanent resident of the HKAR. In other words, it could mean you and me, the Singapore and all other World citizen. So don't pray pray.

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#99
Yesterday 7:40 AM
Revealer said:
The Hong Kong National Security Law (HKNSL)_ is here

https://www.gld.gov.hk/egazette/pdf/2020...444136.pdf

According to article 38 of this law, the HKNSL also applies to people living outside Hong Kong Administration
Region (HKAR) and not the permanent resident of the HKAR. In other words, it could mean you and me, the Singapore and all other World citizen. So don't pray pray.

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You can commit crime in another countries without punishment meh?

Which countries allow you to do that?
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Yesterday 7:46 AM
Cityhantam said:
You can commit crime in another countries without punishment meh?

Which countries allow you to do that?

In USA lah. Can assinate or murder. Rolling on the flor laughing
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