China industrial output growth falls to 17-year low
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16-3-2019 9:07 AM
MGSeow said:
It is not too fair to talk as if China is in trouble at the moment because of lower Industrial output growth. One must understand that China's production was growing at pace of at least 10% year on year for almost 12 years since 2002 before it curtailed to fall gradually to the present level of 5%. On the other hand, US's iIndustrial production growth has been below 5% for the last 60 years. Both of these countries have transformed its industries; US more going for Services and China will also follow suit but China would have a better edge as it has a much bigger domestic sector yet to be exploited.

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15-3-2019 10:26 AM
century said:
內地經濟仍乏力


china domestic consumption also down a lot.....unemployment shoot up.....
商品房銷售額大幅回落....
社會消費品零售總額低於前值....
汽車生產按年跌15%,已連續八個月倒退....
二月底內地失業率從去年底的4.9%飆至5.3%.....
of course external demand also down.....global trade down, economy down....impot/export down too.... thumbs up

China’s Economy: Not So Big After All. New research suggests that China’s economy is only half the size of America’s—and growing much more slowly than officially reported.
March 14, 2019


The four economists’ “forensic examination” of China’s GDP figures relied on hard-to-fake data like tax receipts, nighttime light intensity observed from satellites, electricity generation, railway cargo and merchandise exports to estimate China’s true growth rate since the 2008 Global Financial Crisis. Their estimates are both much more volatile and nearly always lower than the figures reported by China’s National Bureau of Statistics.


seem like china fake data & figure are well known globally.....
all the self claimed number....export to HK, import from HK again to record numbers....
china debt to GDP is very huge....250-300% or even higher...so the higher the GDP, the bigger is the debt....different number to use at different time....


China has more than four times the population of the United States, so in per capita terms China is still way behind at $9,800 compared to nearly $63,000 for the United States.


china per capita higher than Mexico?..... Laughing thumbs up
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#32
中国企业偿债开始遇困 59%料今年经济更差


china debt is super huge, debt to GDP reaches 250-300% or even higher....
property, car & most industries are plunging fast in last few weeks...china has to keep print $$ if not debt bubble already burst....
cut tax try to rescue but tax income will sink to extreme low due to low rate & low or no profit from company...
trade war will drag on for very long as Trump-xi meeting will keep delay....the longer ir delay, situation will near break point...
already tons of bond default last yr, this yr will be much higher....more default to come... thumbs up


该机构访问了1,500家中国企业,有62%在去年曾延迟支付款项。整体来说,40%受访者表示,去年延迟支付的情况有所增加,较2017年的29%为高。调查又发现,企业延迟支付逾180日的比例升至55%,相对2017年为47%。59%受访者又认为,2019年中国经济不会好过2018年,为2003年有调查以来,首次出现过半数比例看淡中国经济。
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#33
22-2-2019 8:25 AM
sgbuffett said:
The spat between PBOC and Li...tells us the options are drying....pump is operating in full capacity pushing water but water level is still falling....
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The Red Ponzi Goes Berserk In January—New Debt Equals 5% Of GDP In One Month! 47% Of Chinese Home Mortgages Are On Unoccupied Units
February 18, 2019


China’s Central Bank is sitting on a massively-leveraged financial system with huge property exposure.
February 19, 2019




china property is definitely the largest ponzi in historical china....on the way melting down...
they try so hard to sustain, now cant even afford to pay interest...need to keep printing & cut rate...
globally should continue to hike rate to burst this bubble....ban to sell at low price?...but cash flow dry up, roll over or bankrupt....will be worse than japan property burst in 1990s....
1 child policy...these child already grown up to>20-30 yrs old now...inherit 3-5 property each, who stay?....dump together? cannot sell? who buy?...tons of ghost town, unoccupied units across china....
low property price is good for the mass, life will not be so pressurized with high living cost & inflation... Bye Laughing
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